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- From: Mark Himsley <mdsh@cix.compulink.co.uk>
- From: walra <@nl.net (Waldi Ravens):walra@moacs11>
- From: Vincent.Lefevre@lip.ens-lyon.fr
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 17:42 BST-1
- From: Mark Himsley <mdsh@cix.compulink.co.uk>
- Subject: 20/06/94
- To: gem-list@world.std.com
- Message-Id: <memo.456084@cix.compulink.co.uk>
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- From: walra <@nl.net (Waldi Ravens):walra@moacs11>
-
- >MH> but why do * + - 0 HAVE to be the numpad keys, why not use the
- >MH> normal * + - 0 and just check for the ascii value?
- >
- >All non-alphanumeric shortcuts are more or less ambiguous. Ctrl-+ is
- >simply Ctrl-+ on a German keyboard, but it involves pressing the shift
- >key on a UK keyboard (Shift-Ctrl-=).
-
- I am sure that users of UK Ataris know that + is shift =, so ^+ == shift^=
-
- >It gets worse for chars which are
- >only available through an alt- combination. At least shortcuts requiring
- >ctrl-alt- for some keyboard layout should not be in the guidelines IMO.
-
- Agreed.
-
- >In the case of * + - 0 it shouldn't be a problem to accept the normal
- >keys as well as the numpad equivalents.
-
- I'm sure that accepting * + - 0 from both numpad and keyboard will please
- lots of ST, Falcon and ST-BOOK users.
-
- >However, the current proposal
- >does make the distinction between numpad and normal keys.
-
- I realy don't see why. The only key that should work diffrently on the
- numpad is Enter, as it does not appear elseware on the keyboard.
-
- From: Vincent.Lefevre@lip.ens-lyon.fr
- >Rainer Riedl:
- >----------------
- >There was only one response on my ^I -> ^? suggestion. Good? Bad?
- >----------------
- >I suggest:
- >CTRL-I - info on the text/object
- >CTRL-? - info on the application
-
- Well _I_ like this.
-
- >----------------
- >I dislike the big-cursor system, and I am not the only one who
- >dislikes this system.
-
- I dislike it too.
-
- >Timothy Miller:
- >----------------
- >And the shortcuts file will also allow people to deviate so far from the
- >standard that the standard becomes a moot point.
- >----------------
- >We'll have a default shortcut file.
- >----------------
-
- I think we should make the standard so good that no-one will want to have a
- shortcut file.
-
- >----------------
- >I don't like your idea of using a capital or lower-case letter for
- >shift. I like the up-arrow because it makes it obvious what needs to be
- >pressed.
- >----------------
- >I agree.
-
- So do I. PLEASE can we keep ^, up arrow and window-fuller
-
- >How about REOPEN ? (like with Zip, on X)
-
- Yes, reOPEN realy tells the user exactly what is going to happen, in the
- same vain as 'save' and 'save as...'
-
-
- Mark H.
- mdsh@cix.compulink.co.uk
-
-